problem preventing many people from bringing
back some of this higher knowledge attained
during a NDE is that it's difficult to retain
every memory of their NDE, assuming it can be
remembered at all. This general inability of
people being unable to retain every memory from
a NDE is similar to our general inability to
remember every memory of a dream we have after
we wake up. However, this is not to say that
higher knowledge and scientific discoveries
are not attained during NDEs or dreams.
people have returned from a NDE and have been
able to successfully diagnose and heal people
- even bring back useful scientific information
- due to the after-effects attributed to their
of this is documented in
Tom Harpur's documentary,
Life After Death. Harpur interviews a doctor
whose name is
Dr. Yvonne Kason who was almost killed in
a plane crash into a lake which resulted in
a NDE. After she recovered, she began to have
strange visions in her mind that she couldn't
explain. One of these visions concerned a friend
of hers. When Dr. Kason thought of her friend,
she would see a vision in her mind of a "brain
covered with pus." Dr. Kason knew that
this was an excellent symbolic vision referring
to the deadly disease meningitis. The problem
was that her friend was perfectly healthy at
the time, exhibited absolutely no signs of meningitis,
and there was no reason to suspect she had it.
Dr. Kason begged her friend to get tested for
meningitis. After an amount of reluctance, her
friend got tested. Surprisingly, the test was
positive. As a result of Dr. Kason's NDE,
her friend was able to get treated for meningitis
at its early stage before it had time to become
deadly. Dr. Kason continues to have such visions.
She now realizes that, as a result of her NDE,
that is now psychic. Her story affirms that
useful things are indeed brought back from NDEs.
interesting case is that of
Edgar Cayce (pronounced "Kay-see")
(1877-1945), a devout Christian who had regular
NDEs and brought back medical cures and information
on future events that ultimately came true.
In 1910, the New York Times carried two pages
of headlines and pictures in which he was declared
the "World's Most Mysterious Man."
In 1954, the University of Chicago accepted
a Ph.D. thesis based on a study of his life
and work. Cayce is also considered to be the
father of holistic medicine by JAMA, the prestigious
medical journal. I have
complete list of the world events which Cayce
successfully foretold before they occurred.
was a wonder to the medical community because
of his ability to diagnose and specify a treatment
for gravely ill people from hundreds of miles
away while out of his body. It is also documented
that while in his out-of-body state, Cayce successful
predicted the 1929 stock-market crash more than
six months before it occurred, the Great Depression,
outbreak of the First and Second World Wars,
Japan's sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, the
rise and fall of Adolf Hitler, the independence
of India, the creation of the State of Israel
fifteen years before the event, the deaths of
two American presidents, the existence of an
unknown Jewish sect called the Essenes eleven
years before the Dead Sea Scrolls were found
(which was verified through archeological excavations
after his death.), invention of the laser in
1958, and his own death before his two sons
returned home from overseas. For many decades
Edgar Cayce Foundation has been around to
research the vast amount of information he received.
Cayce is much more than just an example of how
one can bring back medical cures, historical
facts, and even bring back information from
the future while outside of their body.
Dr. PMH Atwater responds to the argument
that experiencers do not bring back anything
DR. PMH ATWATER: Not true!
A fellow in, I believe it was Sweden, went on
to copyright over a hundred inventions that
have made a significant difference in society.
Mellen-Thomas Benedict invented a glasscutter
that alleviates much hand fatigue in accordance
to directions he received in his experience.
In fact, Mellen-Thomas participated in a number
of medical research projects, and because of
the information he gave the researchers, they
were able to advance their work significantly.
He is now doing DNA research and working on
instruments that can help physicians use certain
frequencies of light in healing. These are just
a few of many.
own case, I was told in my third NDE to do the
research I do - my directions were specific
and detailed. Look at what has resulted! Hardly
trivial, I'd say. The reason you seldom
hear of people like me and Mellen-Thomas and
the fellow from Sweden is that we don't
make spectacles of ourselves. We just do our
please refer to my last three books. All of
them have a section devoted to historical figures
who had a NDE and who went on to make a significant
impact on the world - people like Abraham Lincoln,
Mozart, Einstein, Winston Churchill, Queen Elisabeth
the First, and Edward de Vere the 17th Earl
of Oxford - who may well be the real Shakespeare.
I would invite you to look beyond the so-called
popular books on NDEs, and do some real digging.
You may be surprised at what you find! Please
just read my books. I am specific and give references.
The answers to most of your questions are addressed.
you mentioned it, I have thought of a number
of experiencers who went on to do great things
Donna DeSoto and her Sav-Baby Organization,
Dannion Brinkley and his
Compassion In Action volunteer service for
Carol Parrish-Harra and the Sparrow Hawk
Village she built and the Sancta Sophia Seminary
Nadia McCaffrey and the Natural Death Centers
she is starting to construct and staff,
George Ritchie and his
Youth Corps, and so forth. The line is a
long one, no one knows how long for most experiencers
seldom seek the limelight.
to the argument that experiencers do not bring
back anything useful,
Dr. Kenneth Ring replies:
DR. KENNETH RING: This question
made me laugh because the questioner clearly
thinks that the light, or whatever the intelligence
is that is behind the NDE, would truly be helpful
to humanity if it gave us practical answers
to the burning questions of our day. This is
like saying, if you are psychic, then how about
telling me the winning lottery number? In fact,
the light gives us very practical answers -
love, especially of the unconditional kind,
is probably the thing that could make the world
a far, far better place. It wouldn't end
suffering - there will always be suffering -
but it would help us enormously to deal with
the problems of living. We have brains to help
us solve our practical problems - what we need
and what we get from the light is something
altogether different. It is dangerous, not to
say presumptuous, to try to tell God (or the
light or Whatever) what we humans could most
use. I could probably write on this question
for several pages, if I had time, but a close
reading of the NDE literature will show what
the real value of these experiences is, and
it is not finding a cure to AIDS, etc. Nevertheless,
it is clearly not even true that no experiencer
ever brings back such answers. I give a few
examples in my book, Lessons from the Light.
the case of Ralph Duncan, who brought back a
cure for a certain kind of cancer, and then
there is the case of Mellen-Thomas Benedict
who brought back a great deal of very practical
information about biophotonics and other methods
of light-based healing, and is currently marketing
some of his devices, after millions of dollars
have been invested in his company. So, practical
answers that can definitely benefit humanity
can sometimes be obtained during NDEs, but,
to me, that misses the point.
Note: I looked up the reference that Dr.
Ring gives from his book, Lessons from the Light.
It does show some very interesting examples
of how NDErs learn and even experience cures
for diseases such as cancer.]
are examples, from Dr. Ring's research,
of NDErs bringing back scientific discoveries:
One quite remarkable instance was shared
with me by Howard Mikel, Professor Emeritus
of Religious Studies at Wichita State University
in Kansas, who investigated this case very thoroughly
and can authenticate it. The story, in brief,
involved a patient by the name of Ralph Duncan,
who in the mid-1970s was dying of leukemia.
He apparently was told he had only a short time
to live and was prepared to die. But while hospitalized,
he had a NDE, and during it, he encountered
a luminous being, whom he took to be Jesus (though
Ralph observed that it did not look anything
like the traditional images of him), and whose
eyes were "shooting fire." In any
event, there was then a telepathic communication
from this being in the form of three shot phrases,
which were: "That's enough, it's
dead, it's gone." These words, Ralph
said, were still ringing in his ears as he returned
to his body.
Afterward, puzzling about
all this, he was mystified about the significance
of the phrase, "that's enough."
But, he continues, "I do know what he meant
when he said, "It's dead." To
me it meant that the germ was dead. I no longer
have leukemia." To my mind, however, the
entire set phrases coheres meaningfully in the
context of this healing. For instance, when
the being, his eyes "shooting fire,"
says, "That's enough," it means
in effect, "I've zapped you with enough
voltage for this to cure you." And then, "it's
dead, it's gone."
The last I
heard about this case, in 1989, Ralph was still
hale and living near Boulder, Colorado.
A somewhat similar case was described by
Margot Grey. Five days after abdominal surgery,
an English patient underwent complications and
his wife as told her husband was dying. At that
time, however, he was having a NDE, and during
it he saw: